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Base Stats for Greninja-Ash


Water / Dark

Abilities:

Battle BondBattle Bond: After KOing a Pokemon: becomes Ash-Greninja, Water Shuriken: 20 power, hits 3x.

Evolutions / Family:
Greninja


Weakness Chart for Water/Dark-type:

Bug

Dark

Dragon

Electric

Fairy

Fighting

Fire

Flying

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Ghost

Grass

Ground

Ice

Normal

Poison

Psychic

Rock

Steel

Water

2x

0.5x

0x

0.5x

0.5x

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2x

4x

Movesets for Singles

What is a good competitive moveset for Greninja-ash? These builds have been optimized for Pokemon competing in Sun/Moon Single Battles. The movesets and EVs have been specifically calibrated to deal the most amount of damage to the largest group of potentially common opponents and typing threats for the Sun/Moon generation metagame.


Common team mates for Greninja-ash in Pokemon Sun/Moon:
Landorus-TherianFerrothornMagearnaTapu%20KokoKartanaTornadus-TherianMedicham-MegaPelipperSwampert-MegaMawile-Mega

Greninja is an astounding Water and Dark-typed Pokemon. It's a pretty standard sight to see Greninja out in the 7th generation battlefield. Greninja is weak to Bug, Electric, Fairy, Fighting, and Grass-typed attacks.


Species: Greninja-Ash
Item: Waterium Z / Life Orb
Ability: Battle Bond
Nature: Timid (+Spe, -Atk)
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk |
Moveset:
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Water Shuriken / Hydro Pump
- Spikes

Special Sweeper Greninja-Ash (Popular/Trending)

Greninja is pretty popular Special Sweeper. It's primary goal is to take down the opponent's team with high-damaging special attacks. Life Orb boosts the power of Greninja's damaging moves by 1.3x but it then loses 1/10 its max HP immediately after the attack. With Battle Bond, after koing a pokemon: becomes ash-greninja water shuriken: 20 power hits 3x.

Ice Beam is a special 90-base power Ice-type move (10% chance to freeze the target).
Dark Pulse is a special STAB-boosted 80-base power Dark-type move (20% chance to flinch the target).
Water Shuriken is a special STAB-boosted priority-increased 15-base power Water-type move (usually goes first. hits 2-5 times in one turn).
Hydro Pump is a special STAB-boosted 110-base power Water-type move that deals a extensive amount of damage.
Spikes is a status move (hurts grounded foes on switch-in. max 3 layers).


Species: Greninja-Ash
Item: Buginium Z / Focus Sash
Ability: Battle Bond
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
EVs: 244 Hp / 252 Atk / 12 Def
Moveset:
- U-turn / Return
- Night Slash / Brutal Swing
- Waterfall
- Ice Punch

Physical Sweeper Greninja-Ash (Battle Bond)

Greninja is a phenomenal Physical Sweeper. It was designed to take down the opponent's team with brute physical power. Focus Sash helps protect Greninja from being one-shotted and allowing it to atleast use a crucial move when brought out. With Battle Bond, after koing a pokemon: becomes ash-greninja water shuriken: 20 power hits 3x. U-turn was added to provide additional threat coverage.

U-turn is a physical 70-base power Bug-type move (Greninja switches out after damaging the target).
Return is a physical 0-base power Normal-type move (max 102 power at maximum happiness).
Night Slash is a physical STAB-boosted 70-base power Dark-type move (high critical hit ratio).
Brutal Swing is a physical STAB-boosted 60-base power Dark-type move (no additional effect. hits adjacent pokemon).
Waterfall is a physical STAB-boosted 80-base power Water-type move (20% chance to flinch the target).
Ice Punch is a physical 75-base power Ice-type move (10% chance to freeze the target).

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Species: Greninja-Ash
Item: Waterium Z / Focus Sash
Ability: Battle Bond
Nature: Modest (+SpA, -Atk)
EVs: 244 Hp / 12 Def / 252 SpA
IVs: 0 Atk |
Moveset:
- Surf / Scald
- Ice Beam / Icy Wind
- Extrasensory
- Dark Pulse

Special Sweeper Greninja-Ash (Battle Bond)

Greninja is a pretty decent Special Sweeper. It's goal is to take down the opponent's team with high-damaging special attacks. Focus Sash helps protect Greninja from being one-shotted and allowing it to atleast use a crucial move when brought out. With Battle Bond, after koing a pokemon: becomes ash-greninja water shuriken: 20 power hits 3x.

Surf is a special STAB-boosted 90-base power Water-type move (hits adjacent pokemon. double damage on dive).
Scald is a special STAB-boosted 80-base power Water-type move (30% chance to burn the target. thaws target).
Ice Beam is a special 90-base power Ice-type move (10% chance to freeze the target).
Icy Wind is a special 55-base power Ice-type move (100% chance to lower the foes speed by 1 stage).
Extrasensory is a special 80-base power Psychic-type move (10% chance to flinch the target).
Dark Pulse is a special STAB-boosted 80-base power Dark-type move (20% chance to flinch the target).

Movesets for Doubles

What is a good doubles moveset for Greninja-ash? These builds have been optimized for Sun/Moon Double Battles. They have movesets and EVs specifically calibrated to generally work best versus multiple Pokemon at once as well as helping to support other team members and allys in the Sun/Moon generation metagame.


Common team mates for Greninja-ash in Pokemon Sun/Moon:
Landorus-TherianFerrothornMagearnaTapu%20KokoKartanaTornadus-TherianMedicham-MegaPelipperSwampert-MegaMawile-Mega

Species: Greninja-Ash
Item: Rockium Z / Focus Sash
Ability: Battle Bond
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
EVs: 244 Hp / 252 Atk / 12 Def
Moveset:
- Rock Slide / Rock Tomb
- Ice Punch / U-turn
- Night Slash / Brutal Swing
- Waterfall

Doubles Physical Sweeper Greninja-Ash (Battle Bond)

Greninja is a fabulous Physical Sweeper. It's meant to take down the opponent's team with brute physical power. Focus Sash helps protect Greninja from being one-shotted and allowing it to atleast use a crucial move when brought out. With Battle Bond, after koing a pokemon: becomes ash-greninja water shuriken: 20 power hits 3x. Ice Punch or U-turn are added to provide additional threat coverage.

Rock Slide is a physical 75-base power Rock-type move (30% chance to flinch the foes).
Rock Tomb is a physical 60-base power Rock-type move (100% chance to lower the target's speed by 1 stage).
Ice Punch is a physical 75-base power Ice-type move (10% chance to freeze the target).
U-turn is a physical 70-base power Bug-type move (Greninja switches out after damaging the target).
Night Slash is a physical STAB-boosted 70-base power Dark-type move (high critical hit ratio).
Brutal Swing is a physical STAB-boosted 60-base power Dark-type move (no additional effect. hits adjacent pokemon).
Waterfall is a physical STAB-boosted 80-base power Water-type move (20% chance to flinch the target).


Species: Greninja-Ash
Item: Waterium Z / Focus Sash
Ability: Battle Bond
Nature: Modest (+SpA, -Atk)
EVs: 244 Hp / 12 Def / 252 SpA
IVs: 0 Atk |
Moveset:
- Surf / Bubble
- Icy Wind / Ice Beam
- Extrasensory
- Dark Pulse

Doubles Special Sweeper Greninja-Ash (Battle Bond)

Greninja is a pretty decent Special Sweeper. It's purpose is to take down the opponent's team with high-damaging special attacks. Focus Sash helps protect Greninja from being one-shotted and allowing it to atleast use a crucial move when brought out. With Battle Bond, after koing a pokemon: becomes ash-greninja water shuriken: 20 power hits 3x.

Surf is a special STAB-boosted 90-base power Water-type move (hits adjacent pokemon. double damage on dive).
Bubble is a special STAB-boosted 40-base power Water-type move (10% chance to lower the foes speed by 1 stage).
Icy Wind is a special 55-base power Ice-type move (100% chance to lower the foes speed by 1 stage).
Ice Beam is a special 90-base power Ice-type move (10% chance to freeze the target).
Extrasensory is a special 80-base power Psychic-type move (10% chance to flinch the target).
Dark Pulse is a special STAB-boosted 80-base power Dark-type move (20% chance to flinch the target).

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Movepool

Wondering what moves can Greninja-ash learn? Here is the list of moves this Pokemon can learn in this selected generation.
Sort and organize the learnset by move type, category, accuracy, and power. Bolded moves will gain the same-type attack bonus (STAB) if this Pokemon uses them.


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Apply STABS.T.A.B : Same-Type Attack Bonus
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Combo List

These are a list of several common move combinations Greninja-ash can perform in Sun/Moon. Not every combo going to be game-changing, but some can be pretty fun to play with. Sometimes these can be easily overlooked or forgotten, hence why we find and list them here. Discover what items, abilities, and moves this Pokemon can use in combination with each other to gain a strategic advantage in competitive battles.


Competitive SM Move and Ability Combos for Greninja-ash

  • Moves: Rest + Sleep talk
  • Moves: Rest + Snore
  • Ability: Battle Bond + Move: Water Shuriken
  • Move: Fling + Item: King's Rock
  • Move: Facade + Item: Flame Orb
  • Move: Facade + Item: Toxic Orb
  • Move: Acrobatics + Item: Red Card
  • Move: Acrobatics + Item: Flying Gem
  • Moves with Priority: Quick Attack, Protect, Snatch, Shadow Sneak, Water Shuriken
  • Moves that Break Screens: Haze

Most notable and possible best moves for Greninja-ash

  • Dark Pulse
  • Hydro Pump
  • Ice Beam
  • Other
  • Spikes
  • Surf
  • U-turn
  • Water Shuriken

Common Effort Values for Greninja-ash in Sun and Moon

  • Timid Nature ( 0/0/0/252/4/252/ )
  • Timid Nature ( 0/0/4/252/0/252/ )
  • Optimize Greninja-ash's EV spread for Pokemon Sun and Moon

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FAQs

Is Greninja good competitively? ›

Ash-Greninja is a top Pokemon because its excellent offensive typing combines with its monstrous Special Attack and Speed stats to turn it into a dangerous attacker that is capable of shredding offensive teams.

What EVs should I give Greninja? ›

Max speed is mandatory for Greninja, so Naive Nature and 252 Speed EVs are preferred.

Is water shuriken a good move for Ash-Greninja? ›

8 Amazing: Water Shuriken

Water Shuriken is Greninja's signature attack and a move that the Pokemon frequently utilizes within the anime series. The Water-Type move is tame in strength, but Greninja delivers a flurry of blows that make up for this.

What are Gengars best Moveset? ›

The best moveset Gengar can learn in Pokemon Go is Shadow Claw as a Fast Move and Shadow Ball as a Charged Move. Shadow Claw has the best energy generation and damage output of any of Gengar's Fast Moves, so make sure you have it.

Is Ash Greninja a mega? ›

Ash greninja now requires greninjite and is renamed mega greninja, no stat changes, battle bond is its mega ability, water shuriken now always hits at least 3 times normally.

What league is Greninja best in? ›

Greninja best IVs for Great League

Greninja can be used in the Great League from level 20 to level 24. Greninja's best PvP IVs in the Great League are 1 / 15 / 15 at level 21.

Can Battle bond Greninja be shiny? ›

Battle Bond Greninja is, unfortunately, Shiny-locked in the one event it was distributed, back in SM/USUM's days. You can hack shiny Battle Bond Greninja, but you can't Soft Reset or Masuda Method.

Does Greninja mega evolve? ›

Greninja, the first Pokémon that Ash catches in the Kalos region, cannot necessarily Mega Evolve because a Pokémon needs a special Mega Stone, which is intended for each Pokémon, for it to Mega Evolve.

What is Greninja's hidden power? ›

Protean: Greninja's Hidden Ability. When a Greninja with this Ability uses a move, its type changes to that of the move used, with its weaknesses and resistances changing accordingly.

Is double team good on Greninja? ›

Great for 1v1 Fights

The illusions created by Double Team can deal damage and use Surf or Water Shuriken just like Greninja. If there is only one target available, the illusions will focus on that target alone. However, the damage dealt is far weaker than the real Greninja.

Can Greninja learn Hydro Cannon? ›

With Bubble and Hydro Cannon, Greninja will out-DPS Water Gun and Hydro Cannon Swampert, Gyarados, the other water starters and most importantly, even Kyogre (without Origin Pulse)!

Which is better water shuriken or surf? ›

However, if you want the best Move for it, well, it depends on which format you're playing: for in-game, Surf and Hydropump are better than Water Shuriken for the more consistent power, with Surf likely being the preferred of the two for its higher PP amount, while, competitively, where PPs matter less, it's Hydro Pump ...

How much damage does Ash Greninja water shuriken do? ›

An older Greninja, from the XY expansion, also complements this strategy quite well. Its Water Shuriken Ability puts 3 damage counters on an opponent's Pokémon and can be used from the Bench.

What item should I give Greninja? ›

Muscle Band is a must-have item for Greninja, increasing its attack damage and attack speed. It's benefitial for Greninja since each attack reduces Water Shuriken's cooldown after using it.

Is lick better than Shadow Claw? ›

Lick Ghost is a fast move on par, if not better, than Shadow Claw. This is the Ghost-type equivalent of Smack Down and it's amazing. Psychic Psychic is a solid charge move, but as Gengar doesn't have benefit from STAB when using Psychic type moves, we suggest TM-ing to Shadow Ball.

What is Gengars hidden ability? ›

Gengar has the ability to hide perfectly in the shadow of any object, granting it exceptional stealth.

Is Gengar good or evil? ›

Gengar, also known as the Shadow Pokémon, is a dual Ghost/Poison-type Pokémon introduced in the first generation. It is the final evolution of the Gastly line, evolving from Haunter when traded. While Gengar is not a sinister Pokémon by nature, there were many instances of where Gengar served as villains.

Is Greninja stronger than Charizard? ›

In the Kalos Pokemon League, Charizard beat Greninja after Charizard had taken damage from Pikachu. Charizard is clearly more powerful.

Is Ash-Greninja a legendary? ›

All greninja except for Ash's are normal, but Ash's has a chance to beat a legandary due to his speed, meaning Ash's Greninja is legendary.

Is Greninja coming back? ›

Its return to the anime is highly anticipated and the reunion between Greninja and Ash will undoubtedly be a huge moment for the legacy of the anime. Even if we never learn more about the Bond phenomenon, it will be great to see Ash-Greninja join Ash's team once again.

Is Greninja better for great or ultra League? ›

Great League: 2 / 5

Fortunately for Greninja its moveset is a lot faster and more efficient, with greater energy generation and more frequent shield pressure.

Is Greninja a strong Pokémon? ›

Greninja proved to be Ash's strongest Pokémon with its mixture of speed and strength. When able to channel its Ash-Greninja form, it's on a completely other level than any other Pokémon Ash has trained so far.

Is Ash cap Pikachu shiny locked? ›

1 Answer. No, they cannot be obtained shiny.

Can you bring Ash Greninja to sword and shield? ›

However, unfortunately, Ash-Greninja is not available in Pokémon Sword, Shield, Brilliant Diamond, or Shining Pearl, so information here comes from the most recent generation it was in. This Pokémon cannot be sent to or used in Pokémon Sword, Shield, Brilliant Diamond, or Shining Pearl.

Can you breed Ash Greninja? ›

Sumwun is right, Battle Bond Ash-Greninja can't breed. It is in the Undiscovered egg group. Pokemon in the Undiscovered egg group cannot breed by any means necessary.

Did Greninja return to Ash? ›

The Rare Ash-Greninja

For such a truly unique character to drop out of the Pokemon canon seems strange and unusual, however, Greninja will finally return to Ash's side.

Why is it called Ash-Greninja? ›

Ash-Greninja is the form that Greninja takes when the bond between it and Ash is raised to the limit. The strength of their bond changes Greninja's appearance, and it takes on the characteristic look of Ash's attire.

Is Greninja a frog? ›

Categorized as the "Ninja Pokémon", Greninja is a Water- and Dark-type Pokémon who is a frog-like master of swiftness and stealth.

How strong is Ash-Greninja? ›

Greninja. Greninja didn't require a stone to reach its most powerful stage; only its bond with Ash. The resulting form, known as Ash-Greninja, mentally fuses Ash and Greninja and is just as strong as any Mega Evolved Pokémon seen in the anime, even though Ash struggles to master the transformation.

Why did Ash release Greninja? ›

Despite the two of them having an exceptionally strong friendship, Ash ultimately released Greninja because Greninja's help was needed in destroying the roots of a remaining Giant Rock.

Does razor claw slow work on Greninja? ›

Granting additional attack stats and bonus damage after each move, Razor claw synergizes perfectly with Greninja's kit.

Is water shuriken physical or special? ›

Water Shuriken is a physical move in this generation. Water Shuriken deals damage and is an increased priority move, hitting the target 2-5 times per use.

Is Greninja a physical or special attacker? ›

I say physical all the way. I much prefer special attackers in general, but Greninja's physical movepool is much stronger (his signature attack is even physical), especially when taking Protean into account.

What level Greninja learn water shuriken? ›

Moves learnt by level up
Lv.MovePower
1Water Shuriken15
5Bubble40
8Quick Attack40
10Lick30
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Is Greninja good for raids? ›

Looking from a raids perspective, Greninja can be used decently well as either a Water or Dark attacker, but it typically performs better as a Water-type.

Can you get shiny Greninja in Pokémon GO? ›

Although the Kalos starter Pokémon all joined the game in 2020, Niantic has yet to implement their Shiny versions. This means that Froakie and its evolutions, Frogadier and Greninja, cannot be caught as Shiny in the game right now.

Is Surf Greninja good? ›

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How do you beat Greninja in Pokemon Unite? ›

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How do I get Greninja in Unite? ›

To unlock Greninja in Pokémon Unite, you need to either purchase its Pokémon license or receive it from the 14-Day Welcome Gifts selection by logging into Pokémon Unite separately over the course of 14 days.

Can any Greninja get battle bond? ›

You can't. Ash-Greninja is a Greninja from the demo of Pokemon Sun and Moon that has the ability Battle Bond. Battle Bond wasn't released in Gen 6, so you cannot have it on a STARTER Greninja from X and Y.

How do I transfer Ash-Greninja to the moon? ›

How to Transfer Ash Greninja from Demo Version (Walkthrough Guide)

How do I get Ash-Greninja ultra moon? ›

Visit Professor Kurui inside the Pokemon Centre to send items to the full game. Ability: Battle Bond ("Defeating an opposing Pokémon strengths the Pokémon's bond with its Trainer, and it becomes Ash-Greninja.

Who is better Cinderace or Greninja? ›

As far as an actual offensive threat, Libero Cinderace is probably far better, and actually available.

What tier is Ash Greninja? ›

+Ash-Greninja is FAST. With a base 132 speed tier, it becomes the 15th fastest Pokemon in the game, narrowly edging out base 130's such as Mewtwo, Mega Gengar, and Tapu Koko.

Is Greninja a strong Pokémon? ›

Greninja proved to be Ash's strongest Pokémon with its mixture of speed and strength. When able to channel its Ash-Greninja form, it's on a completely other level than any other Pokémon Ash has trained so far.

Is Greninja good in smash Ultimate? ›

Smash Ultimate Greninja is a very versatile charcter with excellent speed and mobility, a good projectile, as well as lots of deadly combos. Greninja relies heavily on its powerful combo game, so it is important to learn which moves can be comboed off of to make the most of this character.

Is double team good for Greninja? ›

Great for 1v1 Fights

The illusions created by Double Team can deal damage and use Surf or Water Shuriken just like Greninja. If there is only one target available, the illusions will focus on that target alone. However, the damage dealt is far weaker than the real Greninja.

Is Greninja good Pokemon go? ›

The Water and Dark-type starter from the Kalos region, Greninja, can actually be a decent attacker in Pokemon GO. However, any trainer who runs Greninja is going to need a really bulky team support.

What is Ash's strongest team? ›

Even considering the strength of each Pokemon from the games, the Kalos team also has the highest stats of all Ash's teams. So while there is space for disagreement, the Kalos team simply has the most consistent strengths and history. MORE: Pokemon: Why Don't Some of Ash's Pokemon Evolve?

Who is stronger Ash Greninja or Charizard? ›

Charizard is clearly more powerful.

Did Greninja get nerfed? ›

Developer TiMi announces it's updating Pokémon Unite to change the stats of certain Pokémon in an effort to make the game more balanced.

Who is the strongest character in Smash ultimate? ›

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Did Greninja get buffed? ›

Greninja has been greatly buffed from Smash 4 to Ultimate. Its playstyle's traits have been further improved in the transition, while the general engine changes benefit said playstyle.

Which is better water shuriken or surf? ›

However, if you want the best Move for it, well, it depends on which format you're playing: for in-game, Surf and Hydropump are better than Water Shuriken for the more consistent power, with Surf likely being the preferred of the two for its higher PP amount, while, competitively, where PPs matter less, it's Hydro Pump ...

Does razor claw slow work on Greninja? ›

Granting additional attack stats and bonus damage after each move, Razor claw synergizes perfectly with Greninja's kit.

Can Greninja learn Hydro Cannon? ›

With Bubble and Hydro Cannon, Greninja will out-DPS Water Gun and Hydro Cannon Swampert, Gyarados, the other water starters and most importantly, even Kyogre (without Origin Pulse)!

Is Greninja a legendary Pokémon? ›

All greninja except for Ash's are normal, but Ash's has a chance to beat a legandary due to his speed, meaning Ash's Greninja is legendary.

How do you draw a Greninja? ›

How to Draw Greninja | Pokemon - YouTube

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